Weapon Permissions

[AAadhira]

What's your Minecraft Username?: AAadhira
What's the title of your suggestion?: Weapon Permissions

What's your suggestion?:
WEAPON PERMISSIONS:

Hello, my suggestion is to allow weapons that can break bones to allow itself to break a hand in order to disarm a weapon. From what I have seen, people have always questioned how much sense it would be in order to disarm a weapon once a hand is broken.

Ex. Player A has a bat in their left hand, Player B has a bat in their right. Player B slams their bat into Player A's left hand in order to disarm their bat/break their hand.

In order to use these permissions to break a hand to disarm, you do need major permissions. Which would turn an outcome of a situation, to my knowledge you can still attack while a limb is broken (it just needs to make logical sense)

(Ex. You cannot punch with your right hand if it is broken)

Why not add the common sense towards the hand breaking? Disarm a weapon while it is broken. A player gets a choice depending on their weapon; to cut their hand or break the hand.

Hands at this point cannot be cut unless ooc consented or in a UVG/VG gang. It would allow people to disarm without the use of a Sai specifically (Of course this would need to rework how the sai works.) and over all will add sense into a roleplay.

How will this benefit the server and community?:
This would benefit the gang roleplay community while giving more of a strategy towards their actions. It would give them a choice to use their major permissions on disarming the weapon or straight stabbing in the liver. (Obviously this depends on the weapon, you cannot cut with a baseball bat in the cutter's hand.) This will need to have reworks with a Sai to be used in this predicament. Overall common sense should be used with these types of situations, and a balance would need to be in use to implement this feature. However, I would love to see other people's opinions towards the matter.

 

[urufu]

I don't understand any of this but +1 that you shouldn't be able to hold or use a weapon if the hand/arm used is broken

 

[xXXuanderXx]

I agree that players shouldn't be using weapons while their hand or arm is broken and you're physically going to feel the pain but I'm pretty sure you would have to pain rp and not use the hand anyway once it's broken? (I could be wrong.)

The only conflict that I could see with this is technically it would be a double action as disarming and breaking a bone should be two separate actions, but I see the point that's being made.

 

[Kayla1511]

+1 because well it's common sense

-1 because honestly it would ruin the point of a Sai.

 

[DarkEclipic]

Neutral / leaning to -1

I am not opposed of the idea right. but there are some issues I have with this suggestion that just would not work. Like what Xaunder said, disarming AND breaking their hand in one action is considered a double act and is not really allowed on SRP. I don't think there is a way for this to be changed either besides disarming the bat THEN hitting their hand with your bad, but that would require a Min of 2 actions. But, when you are hitting other players with bats and stuff, you should be PainRPing anyway. Information about PainRP can be found in the Rules or [ HERE ] on the PainRP Guidelines.

To the person who said, 'would ruin the point of a sai' that only works on bladed weapons, as it is stated [ HERE ]

 

[Foto]

Neutral / leaning to -1

I am not opposed of the idea right. but there are some issues I have with this suggestion that just would not work. Like what Xaunder said, disarming AND breaking their hand in one action is considered a double act and is not really allowed on SRP. I don't think there is a way for this to be changed either besides disarming the bat THEN hitting their hand with your bad, but that would require a Min of 2 actions. But, when you are hitting other players with bats and stuff, you should be PainRPing anyway. Information about PainRP can be found in the Rules or [ HERE ] on the PainRP Guidelines.

To the person who said, 'would ruin the point of a sai' that only works on bladed weapons, as it is stated [ HERE ]

Not trying to be argumentative at all, but I'm curious how breaking their hand and disarming them constitutes a double action, but cutting their hands and disarming them doesn't?

 

[AAadhira]

To those saying it would defeat the purpose of a sai. Or would be a double action, i will give my statement here.

1. a. A sai can only disarm bladed weapons as DarkEclipic stated. So yes, it may need to be changed for this to work. But, it would still require the major permissions.

1. b. In the same instance, you can argue that cutting hands off would defeat the purpose of a sai (now being for only UVG/VGM fights or anyone who is given straight KPS permissions as taking limbs is in that category.)

2. a. For it to be a double action, like Fotoforos stated. Cutting off a hand and disarming is a thing. That is shown in the bladed weapon states (excluding Pocket Knife). In order for a user to not have it mugged, they need to action to pick the weapon up with the opposite hand in order to use it. (Hence why you can mug a weapon if the hand it's using is cut off, using up the kps permissions unless one wants to kps the person with ooc consent/etc)

2. b. If bladed weapons that can do that can disarm it, why can't breaking a hand. Everyone needs to pain rp regardless. But now players have a choice. "Do i want to break a leg for instance to make sure they cannot run away. Or break their hand to have the advantage." It gives people a chance, plus it allows conflicts where someone needs to be mindful of what majors they are doing. (Of course, breaking the hand and disarming would need major permissions, as other bones).

2. c. A broken hand would not be able to properly grip onto a weapon to use as the pain factor would override the handle holder. It would be dropped similar to how a cut off hand would act. Needing to pick it up, and allowing others to have a chance to fight back. (I may be wrong but I don't think you can continue fighting if a limb is cut off either. So at least the break would allow conflicts where a fight continues.)

TL,DR it would use your major permissions and give the victim a chance of fighting (the only thing i see putting it to shame is the Sai, but that could go through a rework to where you could theoretically disarm a weapon with it only by minors, and the majors to stab the victim. Giving it a reason to use other than just disarming without cutting/breaking a hand.