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School Credit Requirement Amount Change (highschool to college)

IzzBlaze

Level 2
What's your Minecraft Username?: IzzBlaze
What's the title of your suggestion?: School Credit Requirement Amount Change (highschool to college)

What's your suggestion?:
Lower the amount of required credits to grade up from highschool to college to 30.

How will this benefit the server and community?:
With the current amount of credits required to grade up (50) and only 3 classes per day ICLY, it takes quite a while for players to progress. This would slow down character development and discourage players from aiming for college.

Also, High school classes are highly populated in comparison to college classes. Some would say that the college classes may seem empty or non-interactive. Lowering the credit requirement would help even out the population and make college roleplay more engaging.

I also feel that player retention would improve due to lowering the credit amount. Players who feel stuck may get bored when they are aiming for that college path. With a lower credit amount, a smoother path to college would keep them invested and encourage long-term participation.

Lastly, with more students in college, there is more potential for development of their character to create a unique identity. It would open the doors for more creative class types and faculty interactions. This would give players new ways to explore their own characters ambitions beyond a typical high school experience.

This is why I suggest that the credit requirement for grading up from highschool to college should be changed. If I had to suggest a new credit limit, I would say 30. I feel this number is not too large but not too small. It would also make accomplishing a goal for college much easier while maintaining its challenge. You would still have to work hard for it, but not to the point where you are burnt out or stop trying.
 

frenzyyy

Level 35
Helper
Content Team
frenzyyy
frenzyyy
Omega+
-1

Right now it takes players around 1-2 months of playtime to graduate to College through the current homework system, assuming they're doing 1-2 classes everytime they're online. This already is a very fast-paced way to get into college. Just like real life, College takes time, effort and work to get into. Homework was brought on as a faster way to get into College without the need for exams because examinations happen rarely due to the work that has to be put into them. I think it should still be a reward based on the amount of effort you put into School. Our teachers are encouraged to assign homework every single class or at least every other class they host. Attend them classes, homework is very easy to complete if you're actively participating in class! :)
 

celexaprozac

Level 13
celexaprozac
celexaprozac
Omega+
-1, this might sound weird considering what I'm about to say but bear with me here.


What frenzy said is untrue for the average SRP player, I know this because I am so far beyond the average SRP player. I play 12-18 hours a day (feel free to DM and ask) and have attended 50+ classes in the last month for the last two months straight and I barely reached college tag. Also in case you're wondering, 50+ classes a month while also missing classes because of other RP reasons on campus... 50 is a shitload if you plan to do anything during school hours other than classes, which you should be doing, seeing as RP outside of the classroom is important since doing it in the classroom is disruptive.
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There are many, many days straight (weekdays primarily) where we go without having a single class for most of if not an entire day that has credits assigned to it. It took me 2.5 months at a terminally online breakneck pace to reach college tag. That being said, the new influx of teachers should help substantially, however as of current the timeline for reaching college is much larger for the average player than 2 months. I joined 14 February and started attending classes on my main on the below date, 12 March, which is almost bang on frenzyyys statement. However, bear in mind I accrued the below playtime in the amount of time between today and 14 February. I was not joking about terminally online, this is the pace I put in and barely sc****d by to college tag with.

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Date of my first graded assignment btw.

For me, the most terminally online SRP player I think the server has active right now, it was 2 months and some change, and I got lucky that GoodbyeRanden decided to start hosting substantially more HW classes for the reasons that Benspudgydad mentioned. Enormous shoutout to GoodbyeRanden and their character Reiji K. Kagami for absolutely hard carrying Erin's secondary education.

That all being said, the solution isn't decreasing the amount of credits, its increasing the teacher roster (which has been done) and increasing the amount of homework that get approved and assigned (a work in progress I believe)
 

DarkEclipic

Level 210
Community Team
Lore Team
DarkEclipic
DarkEclipic
Omega+
-1
HI HD Teacher of History and all Teacher HD's here. Getting 50 credits is DOABLE in a few month basis.

If we do the math right.
There are 28 Teachers within the teacher Faction. Each Teacher MUST get at least a min of 10 classes a month(That is if all teachers dont have other things going on like irl or on inactivity since it is DRAINING for a teacher and ofc timezones and if teachers have lessons AND homework ready)
That means if all teachers teach in a ONE MONTH timespan, that is a WHOPPING 280 classes A MONTH on the low end(High end is 700)
Homework can be given out every class, sometimes every other classes so the range is between 140-700 homeworks A MONTH

It takes TIME to make homeworks and lessons for each of these classes, as homework needs to be approved by SLT and each homework can only be done by one account ONCE(meaning you will need to see 50 UNIQUE homeworks to get a credit and PASS with an A+ I believe). This already DRAINS Teachers because NOT ONLY we have to make homeworks and do lessons, we have the constant harassment of SRP players on trying to get us to host classes AND we have to do the other parts of our faculty job.

This is ALREADY the fastest way to get into college WITHOUT taking the exam that usually happens around peeks times of SRP once to twice a year. There are many factors that comes into hosting, teaching, and giving out homework and it is NOT simple.
 

wethecreature

Level 126
wethecreature
wethecreature
Rich
-1

Agree with everything everyone else has said for sure, but would also note that, although all of us Professors definitely want a good stream of college students, I feel that lowering the requirement would take away from the accomplishment of getting into college. It shouldn't be super easy, and I feel that currently the amount of time it takes for people who are playing often is a good amount of time. Originally, exams would happen sporadically (as you all know) and sometimes not often at all. I feel like a couple months is a reasonable amount of time to ask before students progress into the next role.

I know it's a stretch to say that lowering the credits would have students pouring in, but I do think there should be a balance of how many people are consistently joining college and how many stay Grade-12 so that there isn't a huge amount of college students at a time (I'm honestly comfortable having a smaller amount of students...).

On the neutral side, if we were to take off any amount of credits, I'd say lowering it to 40 (which still feels like a stretch) should be the max.
 

BabyDollSofie

Level 6
BabyDollSofie
BabyDollSofie
Omega+
-1

I wholeheartedly agree with everyone else saying 50 credits is doable, the issue I and my friends have faced is teachers not being online at the time of us playing, you may just be getting on at a bad time! Though I do personally believe there should be more teachers added onto the roster based on time zones (not sure if that is the current situation or not) lowering the credit requirement imo would just be making it too easy to get into college.
Sorry for the rambling, very tired, but overall I think we just need to have more teachers on depending on their time zones, now of course IRL will always have a play in activity, as it is for all of us.
 

DinoNuggys

Level 8
-1
I do think that this may be good for people a little less active, Though it would make it way to fast paced, and unfair towards the people that have made it to 50 with the current system, And it isn't too hard to get enough classes if you actually care enough to make an attempt at it, Given the reasoning that Dark/Liz gave higher up. Dont let this 50 credits stop you, all dreams are valid, some just take a higher amount of work to achieve, I do believe anyone that sets their minds to achieving 50 credits and a college tag, Can do it, it may take time, But it is highly possible
-AP of law and justice/DinoNuggys!
 

GoodbyeRanden

Level 46
GoodbyeRanden
GoodbyeRanden
Omega
-1
In short, as someone in Teacher faction. HW credits are something you really should be grinding for Period. Sure I give out a lot of Homeworks but that my choice and something I do to contribute to SRP. But not all teachers will have this same level of dedication to the faction nor is it required. Besides there are things HS students can do that College couldn't, so unless you really want a college character it's not worth it if you're not ready for what it offers.
 

Ecocide

Level 85
Community Team
Content Team
3Eco
3Eco
Omega+
-1
Counter suggestion, make it easier for teachers to get homework accepted so its easier to get credits. Maybe have them make assignments for the month? so its all pre accepted? idk
 

lune

Level 172
Lunere
Lunere
Omega+
-1
The progression of high school to college isn’t meant to be rushed. Think of it realistically you don’t see students rushing their way through their high school years to get to college. No, it’s a process. Patience is virtue. Once you reach 50 credits you’ll feel satisfied that all your hard work and effort you put in was recognize. You accomplished a milestone and now you’re moving on to college. Yes, I know it might seem daunting or very dread like because it’s so long but just keep in mind that you will feel good about yourself once you reach the 50th credit. If you don’t want to do the 50 credits then you’ll have to wait until an actual exam is hosted- which if I remember correctly won’t be happening as often anymore and as a yearly thing if I believe - correct me if I’m wrong on that. I think this process taking 1-2 months to finish to get to college isn’t terrible. It’s much better than 6 months or even greater.
 

NoZinth

Level 206
Senior Admin
Employee Lead
Gang Lead
NoZinth
NoZinth
Omega+
-1
Counter suggestion, make it easier for teachers to get homework accepted so its easier to get credits. Maybe have them make assignments for the month? so its all pre accepted? idk
they're checked almost every day, this isn't an issue
 

KimiNoUso

Level 372
Owner
HS Sports Lead
KimiNoUso
KimiNoUso
Omega+
Reviewed
Thank you for your suggestion!

- As we said when we implemented this, we may look at lowering the requirement in future, however for now we feel that the requirement is fair.​
- We have recently re-promoted homework being a requirement to teaching factions and you should be receiving homework after classes.​
 

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