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Make it so expelled students can up their age

Benspudgydad

Level 39
Benspudgydad
Benspudgydad
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What's your Minecraft Username?: Benspudgydad
What's the title of your suggestion?: Make it so expelled students can up their age

What's your suggestion?:
This suggestion is rather simple. The fact that expelled students CAN NOT do /setage is slightly unfair. Why? Well, if a character is expelled, they should be able to do /setage for lore purposes, not be locked at 18. If all their in-character friends go to college, go from Bachelors to Masters to PhD to Adult, it will create a major lore issue; their friend is STILL 18 while their friends are 25 or 24, etc., so for that, they have to void it or say he was younger when they met. I have most likely explained this.. In a way that is not ideal.. But the purpose is rather simple: Make it so expelled students can age up further 18 and make it so they can apply for adult on the slot.
+ Just to add, you may ask, ''WeLl It WaS tHeIr ChOiCE'' Take into consideration that some students did get expelled in, like, 2020-2021, when there was little leniency apparently.
How will this benefit the server and community?:
This will benefit the server through making it so people can maintain in character lore relations and form a new way for expelled students to have more lore and not just be failures in lore and in roleplay.
 
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Benspudgydad

Level 39
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This would just be a suedo adult role, no

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I do see your point; I do admit it is rather fair, but there are many ways this can be prevented. One being, making yourself expelled is extremely hard, as in like 5-7 suspensions kind of hard. Or staff could make a way for expelled students to apply for college, as it is a different institution if I remember correctly. This could work in making expelled students be able to reintegrate into the school life and not lock that roleplay away from them on that character.Or you can make characters age up every
 

frenzyyy

Level 34
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Content Team
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-1

We don't want more people wanting to be expelled, we get too many people baiting suspension and expulsion as it is. This should be a role that once you receive it for your character, there are other consequences.
 
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DarkEclipic

Level 209
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If you are expelled as a College student, then you risk your college tag being removed. Treat detentions as GangRP, you do the crime you do the time and you will face the consequences. Its not HARD not getting in trouble, with my 3 (going on 4) years on this server and with the amount of times ive caused problems in school, I have YET to get a detention
 

Benspudgydad

Level 39
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-1

We don't want more people wanting to be expelled, we get too many people baiting suspension and expulsion as it is. This should be a role that once you receive it for your character, there are other consequences.
If people WANT to be expelled, then it's purely their choice. If you as SLT feel that they WANT it, then don't give it to them. Even though it's unrealistic, it should be done.
 

Benspudgydad

Level 39
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-1
If you are expelled as a College student, then you risk your college tag being removed. Treat detentions as GangRP, you do the crime you do the time and you will face the consequences. Its not HARD not getting in trouble, with my 3 (going on 4) years on this server and with the amount of times ive caused problems in school, I have YET to get a detention
With GangRP, if you get caught, you are able to be bailed. So… your example is rather… irrelevant, if I'm being honest. With expelled students, if we wanted it to be like the prison system, there should be a way to get out of expulsion. But again, it's unrealistic.
 

printsess300

Level 24
I don't know a lot about being expelled or what are the consequences. But what if we could make it so they can unexpell their character by for example submiting an application where they explain why they want their character to be unexepelled and such. This would be a way to like have their character age up again via the steps needed to be done for ageing up after their character is unexpelled. Now I am not sure if you can already unexpell you character but if not then this could be an option.
 

wethecreature

Level 126
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-1 I think people said this, but... people want the adult role, and might try to get expelled so they can age their character up which would cause a lot of trouble for faculty if more students are trying hard to get suspensions and expulsions.
I do think there could be some leeway of like... a few years of age? Is there any way to get out of an expelled role (assuming you can apply for a faction, right)? I think that's an important variable. If there really isn't a way back to it, I think leeway aging up should be considered. If there are ways to get back to the normal SchoolRP, then I think it'd be less necessary for any /setage permissions.
 

Benspudgydad

Level 39
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-1 I think people said this, but... people want the adult role, and might try to get expelled so they can age their character up which would cause a lot of trouble for faculty if more students are trying hard to get suspensions and expulsions.
I do think there could be some leeway of like... a few years of age? Is there any way to get out of an expelled role (assuming you can apply for a faction, right)? I think that's an important variable. If there really isn't a way back to it, I think leeway aging up should be considered. If there are ways to get back to the normal SchoolRP, then I think it'd be less necessary for any /setage permissions.
I honestly do agree, If students could apeal the expulsion after lets sayyyy- 4-5 months as that would be a year and a half ish and it takes that much time to join another school if I remember correctly.
 

AirconUnit

Level 100
While I do see both sides of this, It would highly encourage people to get expelled and suspended just to skip the wait time for exams.

I think a better solution to this would be to have an ICLY appealing system that expelled students can fill out to get back into school once SLT believe they have learned their lesson to then continue the school / age progression.
 

lobsterrdog

Level 70
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-1 You shouldn't be rewarded for being expelled.

The adult tag is a reward for putting in time and effort into factions or putting in the effort for a PHD project. People ALREADY act out in the most insane and ridiculous ways trying to get expelled and something like this only increases that by creating a pseudo adult tag for less than half the effort of writing an application. There is little no effort involved in being expelled in comparison to putting effort, time, and care into involving yourself in a faction and making your respective quota.

If your character was expelled and all their friends are suddenly order, join a faction. Develop them off of being expelled, that IS how you build their lore. Imagine having an expelled character that changes their ways, attends online school for a degree and becomes a doctor? FACTION LEADS LOOOOOOOOOVE that kind of stuff in applications.
 

Squidjees

Level 121
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Rich
While I do see both sides of this, It would highly encourage people to get expelled and suspended just to skip the wait time for exams.

I think a better solution to this would be to have an ICLY appealing system that expelled students can fill out to get back into school once SLT believe they have learned their lesson to then continue the school / age progression.
This is most likely the best way to move forward, for people who, like the OP mentioned, got expelled a long time ago. Either a new appeal system should be created, or expelled students should be able to do college exams
 

Yonio

Level 333
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If I remember correctly, at some point students could send a formal apology letter to the Dean / Principal to have their expelled tag reverted back. However, I can't remember if this was ever removed or if it's still in place. Regardless, it was definitely not a mainstream thing, meaning most people don't quite know what to do if they're expelled.

It'd be nice if there was a more "official" way to be re-admitted into school, be it a forums application or a way to send mail to the school faculty ICly by having a dedicated hopper in place to send said documents
 

wethecreature

Level 126
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wethecreature
Rich
I think an appeal system with a forum application or a book format with a "Why were you expelled?" "Do you acknowledge what you did was wrong?" "Write an apology:"

and then if accepted by the reviewers, the student could have a shadow day or week or smth - a week back at school to test and see if they'd be welcome back (if they got detention during this they would not be accepted back into the school).
 

Joe.exe

Level 63
Joe_Kurumi
Joe_Kurumi
Omega+
It is difficult to obtain the Adult Role. The relatively simple way is to be active in an adult faction for 3 months. The difficult way, which almost no one will do, is to become a College PHD and then switch to the Adult Role at any time. In my opinion, College PHD is much rarer than Adult. (Currently there are only about 10-15 PHD on the entire server)
The only difference between Adult Role and the Expelled Role is that Adult can adjust the age. I think this is the only difference, so it cannot be assimilated.
 

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